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1) Don’t spam. You'll be blocked from posting.

2) No egregious name-calling or bullying. No personal, ad hominem attacks. If you feel like an argument has escalated past the point of civility, bring it to the attention of Tammy or her assistant (jaeholderman). Bullies will be blocked from posting.

3) No use of any pejorative slurs allowed in any context EXCEPT when you are quoting something or explaining about its usage in culture. Talking ABOUT them is all right, but USING them to talk is not. If someone is using a pejorative slur to address you and does not desist, please bring it to the attention of Tammy or her assistant (jaeholderman). PERPETRATORS WILL BE BLOCKED. Tammy's playground, Tammy's rules.

4) No racist, sexist, cissexist, transmisogynistic, homophobic, ableist nastiness will be allowed. These are some, but not all, of the categories of bigotry that exist in the world. None of them are welcome. Think about your words: are they at the expense of a minority group or a vulnerable community of people? Are you being mean for the sake of it or to make an ill-formed joke? Have some courtesy to those around you; you have no idea who else is reading the comments and can be potentially harmed by your words.

(On this same note: If the author or her assistant said something along these lines, feel free to publicly or privately call us out. It has happened in the past. We are not exceptions to this rule.)

With regard to certain derogatory terms directed at women (addition by Tamora Pierce)
Some of you who know me from other, previous blogs, know that I have a bit of a bug up my butt with regard to words such as b***h, c**t, ho, split-tail, whore, ho-bag, and other foul terms used to denigrate women. I find these words even more appalling when used by women to refer to other women. My feeling is that while women may think they are reclaiming these words when they use them in a joking fashion with one another, the women who are not feminists and any men who overhear will assume that it is okay for them to use them. I am certain that the men in particular will not be using them in a reclaiming way. The use of these terms on this site is a warning offense. After two warnings, it is a banning offense, as are repeated uses of the terms mentioned in the paragraph above. Everyone should feel comfortable here. My playground, my rules.

Back to your regularly scheduled terms and statements:

If someone calls you out: Take a moment to breathe and think about why someone would say that to you before reacting. Most of the time, you’ve used oppressive language or said something that, regardless of intent, is harmful, ignorant, or cruel. Do NOT turn it into a personal attack about people's level of sensitivity or their insistence on "political correctness". We have done this. It is stupid and ends badly for everyone.

In summary, while this is Tammy's House, it should also be a safe space for all of her fans. If you upset that, your ass will be kicked to the curb.

[These guidelines, with very limited changes, were borrowed from Mark Reads' Site Rules (with permission). His page also has links to Social Justice 101 and Derailing for Dummies, which have all the information a person could want about not being an asshole and common forms of assholery as displayed by groups in power.]

Tortall series

Date: 2015-04-18 03:25 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] winterhart24
I have always liked the Tortall series and was wondering if you were still going to write about Numair's early years. I remembered seeing a time line of books on your website a couple of years ago but can not find it.

Re: Tortall series

Date: 2015-04-20 04:54 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] jaeholderman
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Yes, Tammy is currently working on the Numair books. They've gone from two books to one book to two books again, and the writing (and publishing) schedule has shifted around accordingly. As soon as there's a confirmed release date, we'll put it up on all of her social media sites, don't worry!

Re: Tortall series

Date: 2015-04-20 10:54 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] winterhart24
Thanks for responding and I'll look forward to when numair's book comes out.

Date: 2015-04-18 07:01 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] elialshadowpine
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Question, for clarification: What about reclaimed slurs? For example, myself and a lot of other people use the term "queer" to define ourselves, even though its historical usage is a slur. Same for words like "bitch", "crazy", etc. (Obviously, if someone is using them against someone else, that doesn't fall into reclamatory territory, which is where I see some people fail.)

I ask, mainly, because there's a very, very wide definition at this point of what consists as a slur, and being on the autism spectrum, I need a bit more specifics for this space.


Date: 2015-04-21 01:32 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] lauredhel
lauredhel: two cats sleeping nose to tail, making a perfect circle. (Default)
...and I just now realise I've used "crip humour" elsewhere on your DW, approvingly and happily, as it's a reclaimed term for me and many others who identify as crips. Is that a problem here?

Date: 2015-04-21 01:48 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] elialshadowpine
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I know how you felt about it when we talked about it some years back, but that's a long time, and I can't count the number of people I know who have changed their minds on something, so I don't automatically assume that it's the same. This might be an Aspie thing of mine.

(To edit in an addition, I just read your red-block statement. I can definitely see the confusion that you're talking about and why you want to avoid it. I personally use reclamatory language to de-fuse the impact those words have on me, but I can very much see where you're coming from.)

Sounds perfectly fair wrt queer. It's the simplest word for me to use, without paragraphing it, or referring to the Kinsey scale, which usually gets a, "Huh?"

For disability, speaking as someone on the autism spectrum, bipolar, with generalized anxiety disorder, PTSD, and ADHD, along with the various physical disabilities you know about already, I'd be verrry careful, at least in regards to self-identification. I don't actually know what terms you're thinking of, but neurotypical/neurodiverse, for example, are somewhat considered slang and are considered useful. Stuff like "crazy", yeah, not as much, outside of the reclamatory sense. Aspie and Autie are sometimes considered negative slang but a lot of the community uses and prefers them.

Also, "differently abled" mostly comes from outside the disabled community, and it makes the vast majority of us wince. I'm in a lot of disability communities and support groups (so probably a group the size of Sheroes in its heyday?) and I can think of one single person who preferred that term; the rants I have seen come up around the term are... um. Fierce, we'll leave it there.

Problem is, I think, when you're not part of a group, it's a lot easier to miss what is considered offensive within the group -- and this is especially true for the disabled community, because fuck me but we have got a shit ton of neurotypical, non-mentally ill, currently able-bodied people on places like Tumblr and elsewhere telling us how we should describe ourselves. It's your space, so of course, your rules, but I thought you might want to be aware of this particular issue around terminology. For some reason, it seems to happen more to the disability community than others -- I've not seen the same happen in the LGBT community as long as I've been part of it. It's a form of (well-intentioned) ableism, honestly.

I don't know if this is going to send it to spam so I'm going to break up the link: autistichoya DOT com/p/ableist-words-and-terms-to-avoid.html This might be useful for you as a list of words to start with for "please do not use this language". Hopefully that's a bit helpful. :)

(Not trying to be argumentative or anything, just honestly trying to feel out the boundaries, and, as you probably know, I'm generally of the preference of having bases covered as much as possible before something could potentially go "boom". Even if Ivanova does say "There's always a boom tomorrow.")
Edited Date: 2015-04-21 01:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-04-21 02:27 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] lauredhel
lauredhel: two cats sleeping nose to tail, making a perfect circle. (Default)
Count me in on wincing at "differently abled", and "disAbility", and all the other cutesieisms for disabled people/people with disabilities. I'm leaning back toward "disabled people" for general use, with a social model view - we're just people, but society disables us (it's more complicated than that, but all these monikers are shorthand).

But in person, I'm a crip, or if you get to know me better an EDSer, or if you get to know me better just lauredhel plus all of the above.

Date: 2015-04-21 02:29 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] elialshadowpine
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I use disabled, or people with disabilities, depending on crowd. And I know a bunch of people who use crip or cripple as a self-identifier; I'm a little rare in my groups for not using it myself. (I just don't like the way it sounds on the tongue -- or fingers -- really.)

*waves* Fellow bendy here! Not EDS-diagnosed (apparently there are no specialists in my state that handle EDS-H) but Hypermobility Syndrome, which they're arguing about on the medical research level that they're really the same thing.

Date: 2015-04-21 02:47 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] lauredhel
lauredhel: two cats sleeping nose to tail, making a perfect circle. (Default)
Hallo! I'm more of an ex-bendy at my stage of life, but definitely bendy on the inside. We are lucky to have specialists here in Perth who deal with EDS.

Date: 2015-04-25 01:14 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] elialshadowpine
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Oh, I absolutely figured that you didn't know it was considered offensive by the disability community. I am not the assholes on Tumblr that assume that if someone makes a mistake, they should have somehow known about it, and they are a Bad Person Forever for making a mistake.

I'm actually having a discussion on FB right now about terminology, how rapidly it changes (especially with Twitter and Tumblr), and in regards to the trans community, trans elders are being pushed out with hostility and rage (even from communities they helped found!) because they use older terminology. We're talking about using "biological" instead of "cis" and not putting a space between trans and the gender (ie, transman instead of trans man). I had to actually warn Robert (whom I've had a lot of talks with and we worked things out and are friends again... but very much agreed that we are definitely not good for each other romantically) when he started getting into online trans communities about terminology, because I knew those communities for a fact would flame you if you used the "wrong" terminology, when that terminology has only come into frequent use in the past ~5yrs.

My mother worked, until she retired a few years ago, in psych, and the changing terms were a huge thing. Mental retardation is now offensive, mentally disabled is now offensive, the current term is developmentally delayed, but that doesn't quite fit people with Down's or such, vs. people with autism -- but if you use either of the first two, people will rip you. It actually makes me sick how people overreact to terminology, especially with older people, and people who for whatever reason can't keep up with the ever-changing "preferred" terminology. (Autistic people fall into this category, too, so there is both ageism and ableism involved.)

It's really a big issue, especially when the terms were considered polite before, and people react like you're some sort of -ist monster for using it. Yet there's also terminology that's being reclaimed -- queer is really the best example here, and there's a huge argument in the LGBT community about it. Older LGBT folk have very visceral negative reactions to the word, but it's been embraced heavily by the younger crowd (myself included, because apparently I'm encouraging corrective rape by calling myself a lesbian because I care about whether the person identifies as feminine, even if it is genderfluid or non-binary with a strong feminine leaning; I am not interested in anyone with strong masculine traits, regardless of body, so I don't see why the hell lesbian shouldn't fit, but after getting comments like that I said fuck it and started using queer instead).

Yeah, I got on a rant. Sorry. >_<


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